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Posted Wed Apr 18, 2012

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Autodesk mentions switching all software to online use only

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(Updated) Autodesk's Ken Pimentel has further described Autodesk's position stating that "this was a casual statement (...) not a declaration of a formal policy. (...) Autodesk is researching a lot of cloud-based services. At no time did he say, 'you won’t have a desktop product to use'." Read Ken Pimentel's comment posted on this news item.
(Updated) Autodesk's Ken Pimentel has stated that Carl Bass's words are being taken too literally, and that he "just means that there will be ways the product will be experienced via the cloud." Ken Pimentel also mentions two methods of cloud connectivity are being researched. More on CGTalk.
According to a recent interview with Autodesk's CEO Carl Bass, in a few years the company's software would be running online ("cloud-based" only). Quoting from the interview (2m26sec): "I'd say 2 to 3 years from now every one of our products will be used online. The only way to use them will be online." Watch the video on TechCrunch.

Source: Ron Martin

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by Steve Green - April 18, 2012 6:34 pm

Good luck with that.

I think they should stick him somewhere where he can’t do any damage before it’s too late.

by john butler - April 19, 2012 12:23 am

This is one of the things I hate about Octodesk. I love Max and have used it for years, but feel nervous about announcements like this.

I got myself Modo recently, in order to branch out. They treat their users in a completely different fashion. If only their axis system wasn’t so weird……..

by stig atle steffensen - April 19, 2012 12:28 am

I really hope he is wrong, it makes sense to have cloud access, but not to make the whole app cloud based.

by Chris Ollis - April 19, 2012 12:32 am

Having worked at numerous overly cautious companies where non disclosure agreements and the official secrets act are enforced stopping any data leaving an office, I can’t see that going down too well.

by Rotem - April 19, 2012 12:44 am

Right. The company that brought you Viewcube and EggSpline, is going to manage to convert their entire suite of products to be cloud based in 3 years.

by Marcin - April 19, 2012 2:18 am

^ Exactly. Won’t work.

by Steve Green - April 19, 2012 3:17 am

Playing devil’s advocate I can see it being useful as an option in some cases, for example a freelancer being able to turn up at a company and just use it.

But.

You’re dependent on Autodesk’s servers
You’re dependent on an internet connection
All the plugin makers would have to be involved
They struggle to deliver on a yearly basis anyway – XBR probably won’t be finished and they want to throw resources at doing this?
Security Concerns
It basically ends up as a rental – so if you decide to jump ship, you can’t use your seat of Max (or whatever) anymore?

I can’t see it happening – and no way in 2-3 years.

by Jumanji - April 19, 2012 9:33 am

Ouch, that sounds like an invitation to use another company’s software…

by othoap - April 19, 2012 10:16 am

Didn’t netflicks try this?

Someday the cloud will be the standard. “Someday” How ever until there’s a standard set for the internet this prediction seams boardroom pie in the sky thinking.

This type of thinking seams to say we don’t care about the small guy. A large studio could better afford the bandwidth/connection reliability then a home office setup.

We’ve all seen companies through there small customers overboard in favor of the large contracts. I would love to see the demographic split of autodesks client base. What is the bigger slice of the pie. The EA’s or the small guy?

This is the same problem as porting Max to MAC. The mount of resources spent on making this work should go into making the program better for the user.

How dose this benefit the user?
Faster or even the same?
More options or will we loose some?
More Stable, do I really need to say?
More economical?
How would backburner work?
Can I work off line?

Really WHAT is the benefit to the user?

john butler, I hear you. This has been on my mind for some time now. I thinks it’s really time to diversify. The question is if AD dose this would/could all follow?

So what is the best non AD package to learn? Lgihtwave, houdini, C4D, blender, modo, electric image?

by Mat - April 19, 2012 11:07 am

I just tried to log into the early beta of Autodesk 3dsMax 2016 on the internet, and a popup message says “Sorry, American Autodesk 3dsMax isn’t available from your country.”

So then I logged into the Canadian website and it doesn’t have as many plugins as the American version, but they want to charge the same subscription amount.

After using 3dsMax 2016 for 30 minutes my Internet bandwidth cap was reached, and Bell internet starts throttling my download speed. Next thing I know 3ds Max is rendering so slow.

Cloud software sucks!

by loran - April 19, 2012 2:44 pm

so true Rotem :)
Autodesk clowns executives finally burried the giant with this last joke.
This prove executives are not users at all, comparing heavy professional softwares with facebook ! WTF ?!!
I just think other companies are drinking Champagne today.
Happy new year to Luxology, sideFX, Newtek, Maxon and Blender Fundation !
Personnaly I switched from max to Blender with happyness more than one year ago so this news just prove me I was right. They made my day.

by Igor Posavec - April 19, 2012 6:54 pm

^ no intention to defend AD (i know, we know, this will be the reality soon) – this is too early to publish such “revolutionary” idea :)

by ken pimentel - April 19, 2012 8:36 pm

People, this was a casual statement by Carl, not a declaration of a formal policy. You are also misinterpreting what he was saying. He just meant that there are web services (like cloud rendering) in Revit today that you must be online to use. Autodesk is researching a lot of cloud-based services. At no time did he say, “you won’t have a desktop product to use”. You’re interpreting that, it isn’t what he said.

by robert - April 20, 2012 10:49 am

Ah, maybe it is not what Bass meant but it was worth 1 million laughs.
Thanks for clear-up Ken.

by Garry Clarke - April 20, 2012 11:49 am

Even if it were true, even if it could work. There is no way I could even contemplate it. In my time I’ve worked on games, military flight simulators, prototype oil drilling equipment etc etc. There is no way on earth my clients would want their data on a server somewhere where it’s not under their control.

by loran - April 20, 2012 3:09 pm

What a good news “it s was a wrong interpretation”.
So ask developpers will have full time to work on a HeartSpline for the next Max release.

by mladen stamenic - April 22, 2012 5:58 am

For instance all of that Autodesk fuzz made me more competitive. Beside of Autodesk products, now I use Archicad, Cinema4D and start with Modo. This cloud crap is not going to work. Guys just make better software and less resource hungry. Many offices already dropped Autodesk products for different reasons. Look at the Switzerland, there architect have fear of Autocad and Revit is still not popular.

by Rotem - April 22, 2012 7:26 am

I understand it’s probably not what he meant, and I’m not trying to start a grammar fight :) but you have to admit a statement like “Every one of our products will be used online. The only way to use them will be online” does in fact semantically mean “The only way to use every one of our products will be online”.

About all the negative comments in this thread (and many others like it), I think it’s funny how we all as a collective group of users bitch about every single Autodesk release but the percentage of users actually moving to other products is so small. It’s a very long term love/hate relationship.

by othoap - April 22, 2012 10:54 am

Garry – That’s got to be the best reason cloud software is a BAD idea. I have a whole drawer full of NDA’s.

As stated by many of here. We all know how real this could be. This was not a feature announcement. This is a game changer. A change this drastic could be devastating to many of us.

Rotem- Not arguing with you only tying to explain peoples concerns. We all have put thousands of hours into our tools. Most of us found a comfort zone in that time. This investment goes beyond the tool it’s self.

The reason we all complain is we’ve got a lot riding on our investment. It’s only natural that turns into an emotional investment. We wouldn’t “bitch” if we didn’t care. The day AD should be concerned is the day we don’t bitch.

We’re in a unique time of history on many levels. My career started before the digital revolution. I woke every day to the same pencil and paper. They did not change. That reality for better or worst is gone.

Change is now the constant. On one hand it’s a GREAT thing. But the time lost in retooling takes it’s toll.

BTW- lay off the “View cube” I love it.

by Rotem - April 23, 2012 12:45 am

@othoap I wasn’t trying to hint that we have no right to complain, it’s very justified for obvious reasons, I am in the same position.

by Denyzor - April 23, 2012 3:24 am

Seriously Mr Autodesk, I use this software( 3dsmax) for a longtime,really long, and I’ve never seen the real changes that every users waits.
The only two greats things about 3dsmax was : moving on windows from DOS and adding EditPoly things. The rest was only cosmetic and purely commercial.
And now the worst thing is that a guy (Mr Ken Pimmentel) trying to explain to us that the CEO don’t even understand the real signification of what he said in an interview ?
“this was a casual statement by Carl”, a CEO who make casual statement ? please, please… It reminds me that sort of things we can see sometimes : http://i.imgur.com/cZfa6.jpg?1

by superrune - April 24, 2012 2:45 am

What exactly is the connection between Autodesk and Adobe? Are their CEOs drinking buddies or something?

Autodesk seem to be following Adobe’s lead quite close. First the price increases in Europe, then the Creative Suites, and now they’re considering online subscriptions only half a year after Adobe annoucing Creative Cloud. It seems that if you want to know what Autodesk will do in a years time, all you have to do is look at what Adobe’s doing today…

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